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DRAFT
Meeting Summary
Meeting 17 – November 6, 2003
Members:
Richard Bonewits
Richard Derham
Mark Endresen
Dave Gering
Steve Goldblatt
Arun Jhaveri
Sharon Maeda
Jim Montgomery
Bill Ptacek Kathleen Royer
Steve Williamson
Consulting
Team:
Berk
& Associates, 206-324-8760
Marty Wine, Senior Associate
Cherienne Tibbetts, Associate
Council
Staff:
David
deCourcy, Council Chief of Staff, 296-0343
Scott White, Council Staff, 296-0324
Gennevie Cook, Committee Assistant, 205-5079
The
Commission on Governance meeting was called to order at 2:07 p.m.,
44th Floor, Wells Fargo Building, 999 – 3rd Avenue, Seattle, Washington
by Co-Chair Dave Gering.
Commission
members present: Richard Bonewits, Richard Derham, Mark Endresen,
Dave Gering, Steve Goldblatt, Sharon Maeda, Bill Ptacek, Kathleen
Royer, Steve Williamson
Absent: Arun Jhaveri, Jim Montgomery
Audience
Members: Russ Carlsen, King County Council, Kathy Lambert’s
Office; Anthony Hemstad, Suburban Cities Association, City of Maple
Valley; Ammon Shoenfeld, King County
DCHS/MHCADSD; Marisa Alegria, King County DCHS; Miriam Helgeland,
League of Women Voters; Presiding Judge Wesley Saint Clair and Tricia
Crozier, King County District Court
1.
Welcome and Meeting Overview
The goal for the meeting is to get as far as possible in having the substantive discussions to
lead to Phase 2 recommendations today, and surface your questions to start research on
Phase 3.
2. Briefing: King County District Court
Presiding Judge Wesley Saint Clair and Court Administrator Tricia Crozier commended the
Commission for their work, and presented to the Commission about the nature of District
Court operations, and recent changes in the Court’s budget and revenues, and operations.
District Court has taken many cuts in the current budget crisis and has actively looked for
efficiencies, has cut staff while maintaining level of service. They are most proud of the
implementation of special courts.
In addition to civil cases, small claims, impounds, protection orders, name changes, traffic
and parking infractions; the District Court handles preliminary hearings for criminal and
some felony cases and inquests. Filings since 1996 have been declining because
municipalities formed their own courts; once that independence is achieved, we see filings
trend up again.
District Court makes up less than 1% of the County budget and about 4% of the Current
Expense Fund, with about 240 FTEs, 25 judges, and a budget of about $21 million. Budget
cuts since 2001 have totaled $5.4 million; proportionate to the Court’s budget these are
very severe cuts.
Q: Are these “real cuts” or just cuts to a proposed increase?
A: From August 2001 to December 2002 the Court implemented a hiring freeze and then
laid off 33 employees to meet budget cuts. There are now 57 District Court FTE fewer than
3 years ago. Reduced probation staff by 50%, administrative and line staff as well. The
Court further restructured Court districts, resulting in the closure of facilities. This effort
streamlined the governance of the Court. We consulted with the Suburban Cities
Association and others who were concerned about the structure.
A new probation structure was created. Formerly people were supervised by a probation
officer with caseloads of 300 or more, but the Court employed a better model based on
Mental Health Court and Domestic Violence Court – the new court calendars decreased the
number of people on probation and increased communication. The Court also changed its
criteria for who is on probation – thefts and property crimes were not on active probation
but compliance, while domestic violence cases remained in “active” status. This model
increases accountability and decreases recidivism. The specialized court calendars have an
opt-in process that starts with willingness to be on the program; if it is mandated we end up
with a different structure. Filings, jail days are reduced and accountability is increased.
Because of liability issues, court supervision is necessary.
Between Seattle, Superior and District Court we spend about $500,000 annually on
interpreter services. A new pilot project with a staff interpreter shared with other courts
has been implemented, as have intranet forms required for staff use.
Alternatives to jail has been a primary focus – County has always had but now expanded
work release and electronic home detention. Courts are now using pre-trial release and
work crew.
Q: Aren’t there restrictions because of mandates and statute?
A: Not for District Court; there are for Superior Court.
Q: Do you have an estimate of the total savings of these programs?
A: No, but we can supply that to you.
Q: Are there really savings in the phone tree concept you have implemented?
A: Not cost savings, but in deployment of staff – it has freed some up to work on other
issues, has meant we don’t need to make more staff reductions.
The Court has also implemented the Mental Health Court for frequent offenders with cooccurring
disorders. The Court’s philosophy is that this calendar offers intervention in
murders waiting to happen.
Relicensing Court has been very successful and is likely to be replicated in Pierce and
Snohomish Counties. Reduces the prosecution and defense costs in adjudicating Driving
While License Suspended (DWLS) cases.
Q: Doesn’t allowing people to keep their cars also increase their employability?
A: Yes. My point of view is that this is a financial crime – a downward spiral with no way
out. This court calendar creates an alternative. We have a walk-in component where
people can come in without being charged and we provide the service to anyone with
licensing problems.
Trial Court Consolidation is being addressed with state Supreme Court funding task force.
Should we consolidate courts of limited jurisdiction? My opinion is that there should be one
trial court with various departments: superior, limited jurisdiction, complex cases. Being
studied is whether courts should share resources. We received a grant to put together a
program to allow “therapeutic courts” (Mental Health Court, Drug Diversion Court, Seattle
Municipal Court) to technologically talk to one another. Also seeking one collection agency
– we have been able to get a lower rate for collections.
Contracting with 17 suburban cities: for a while it was unclear whether the County would
remain in this business; the Executive said the County didn’t want to do this anymore, but
there is now a proposed contract circulating. Hopefully by mid-January 2004 this will be
completed – a 2-year extension. The dialogue about what courts should look like for 10
years is ongoing. Our operational master plan will help to answer some of these issues.
Q: Do municipalities’ fees fully recover costs?
A: Not now, but with a new contract, fees will cover costs. The Court is implementing BATF
recommendations of full cost recovery.
Q: What is your opinion about full cost recovery?
A: (Judge Crozier) I’m a lone voice. I believe a unified court system offers great flexibility.
Others say to become too large is ineffective. I support one trial court. I think a unification
of district and superior court administration would be a great first step.
Q: Why do you think you are a lone voice?
A: “Territoriality,” fear of what it will look like and what will need to happen in practice.
District Court will be reviewing this in the Operational Master Plan (OMP) and Facilities
Master Plan (FMP).
Q: What district do you work in?
A: Redmond.
Q: Seattle District and Municipal Court – the Seattle District Court is primarily civil, also
staffs jail calendar and jail facility. Seattle Municipal has authority to review civil matters
but doesn’t – there’s not a lot of revenue associated with it.
3. Approval of October 23 Meeting Summary
Bill Ptacek moved and Mark Endresen seconded the approval of the October 23 minutes.
The motion was unanimously approved.
4. Project Overview
– Where we are headed and how we’ll get there
omment: We just heard another reasonable presentation showing that County agencies
are handling their management and funding well. I’m not hearing that we could make
significant cuts or major suggestions.
Marty Wine reviewed where the Commission is now, where it’s headed and proposed a
process to reach recommendations. She said the consulting team has heard the
Commission’s concerns about time and whether we have enough time and meetings to
cover issues adequately. Most felt that this is an opportunity for the Commission members
to make strong statements about what should be done. Members were asked to identify for
each phase:
- whether the universe of questions and issues about this phase have been
raised,
- if not, what information is still needed to reach recommendations.
Big picture question to be answered by the Commission: What does it take for King
County to have a really effective government? Recommendations must:
- Focus on regionally important issues
- Help with chronic Current Expense problem
Phase 1 Recommendation Adopted in Draft on September 11: What Services
Should be Provided by King County? In the Commission’s review of
the full County budget and services provided, we do not recommend
that the County get out of any business. We consider the County
to have a role in service provision in the following service areas,
and may revise this finding based on Phase 2 and 3 findings.
| Regional Provider: |
| • Developmental | • Prosecuting Attorney | • Public Health Disabilities (County Cases) |
| • Juvenile Detention & Courts | • Courts | • Public Defense |
| • Adult Detention Pretrial & Felonies | • Mental Health, Involuntary Treatment | • Medical Examiner |
| • Youth Services | • Public Transportation | • Roads |
| • Surface Water | • Sewage Collection &
Treatment | • Budget |
| • Auditor | • Elections | • Finance/Treasurer |
| • Executive | • Council | • Assessor |
| Local Provider |
| • Public Safety (Police
Services/Crimes) | • Traffic Enforcement | • Planning (GMA) |
| • Land Use Controls
(GMA) | • Parks & Recreation | • Building/Fire Code
Inspections |
| • Community
Development |
The Commission recommends that King County obtain input about its role in the following
services. The Commission invited input on October 1 about what activities are in the best
interest of County citizens and taxpayers for the County to provide.
- Economic development
- District Court
- Regional transportation
- Airport
- Boundary Review Board
- Animal Control
- King County Fair
- Emergency Medical Services
Phase 2 Findings: How Should County Services Be Provided?
Commission has identified key Phase 2 management and service challenges by issue/service
area. The Commission will make recommendations that the County make changes in the
following areas to address these challenges:
- Intergovernmental relations: County’s role as a regional and rural provider,
annexation, urban subsidy, relations with cities, regional finance and governance. A
subgroup is working on a recommendation now.
- Criminal justice (to be covered today, November 6)
- Employment policies (A subgroup working on recommendations)
- Management approach to fiscal challenges (overhead, internal services)
- Human services (to be covered today, November 6)
Proposal is to review progress on recommendations for intergovernmental relations and
employment policies. Berk & Associates has synthesized all the background materials to
date (including peer/innovator research) and is offering draft recommendations to the group
regarding criminal justice, human services. Management approaches has yet to be
researched.
Phase 3 Focus: How services should be paid for to ensure adequate long-term
funding; any changes to current expense revenue structure; any dedicated
revenue resources to fund specific services.
Work plan said the Commission would address the following steps (R=research):
- Analyze cross-subsidization of urban unincorporated King County (R)
- Revenue source assessment:
- Stability, sufficiency of CX, non-CX funds
- How other areas develop their funding base (R)
- New sources – utility tax and others (R)
- Use existing sources in new ways (R)
- Regional financing mechanisms in King County and other metropolitan counties
- Potential for expenditure reductions in lieu of revenue changes
- Crosswalk of recommendations to BAT Force recommendations, other studies
- Consider interrelations of this phase to prior phases
Proposal is to address some of this using 2004 budget information
and BATF recommendations as a starting point. Today, Committee members
will be asked to identify what we already have and know to answer
this question; ask the Committee what information, within these tasks,
is still needed to make recommendations; and develop recommendations
by the end of the December 4 meeting.
Phase 4 Focus is on:
- Changes to governance structure and governance policies
- Partisan/non-partisan elections;
- Change any elected office to appointed;
- Change size and structure of government;
- Change size and structure of county council, including staffing
and salaries.
- The Commission stated its intent to consider these questions
in context of County’s regional role, needs and services, internal
structure and external influences; to consider what other counties
inside and outside Washington do; consider structures to bring
other elected positions into a more cohesive unit with the legislative
body (i.e. serve on a Council that might reduce the need for councilmembers
or judicial offices).
- Finally, intent was to discuss reorganization of the governance
structure, and the implications of reducing the number of elected
positions, and whether central services could be provided from
single offices such as (for example only) a central Office of
Management & Budget, equally responsible to all the elected County
officials and eliminating this function in departments.
- Have a discussion about factual information: forms of government,
representation, pros and cons of different structures.
- Commission member requested that we have the International City/County
Management Association speak with us about advantages/disadvantages
of different forms of government.
- Elected auditor has been proposed by members of the Council,
as has discussion of election by district or at-large by a citizen.
- The consulting team will ask the Commission to brainstorm who
should be consulted for this phase with a plan that draft recommendations
might be available by February 1.
- To meet this schedule, it’s proposed that the January 8 and
January 22 meetings be retreat format (January 8 meeting is already
scheduled from 12-5 p.m.), and wrap up Phases 1-3 recommendations
by December 4 to focus on these issues in January.
- It was agreed that the January 31 hearing for Phases 1-3 would
become the public consultation and comment meeting for all findings
and recommendations including ideas for phase 4; the timing for
that hearing might be mid-January instead of January 31.
Q: It appears from some news stories that the Commission should be
addressing biennial budgeting. Should we?
A: It’s either a Phase 3 or Phase 4 issue, together with elected auditor
and at-large or district representation.
5. Framework to Complete Phase 2 Recommendations
The types of recommendations that the Commission might make would
be: Things King County would…
- Do on their own
- Need to have dialogue and agreement with the cities or the State
- Need state legislative change
- Need voter approval
- Study in more depth (Commission was only able to scratch the
surface)
- Important to focus on the consequences of not acting; and the
fact that there is a crisis.
Commission has identified key Phase 2 management and service challenges
by issue/service area. The Commission will make recommendations that
the County make changes in the following areas to address these challenges.
The Commission reviewed all the information received to date in the
following areas, summarized by Berk & Associates, including some preliminary
language of recommendations that should be refined by the Commission
before December 4 (see individual written packets about issues). Homework
for the Commission: read the packets which summarize all the reading
materials that have been distributed to date, read the draft recommendation,
and send Marty preferred language and the direction for recommendations
as soon as possible.
Intergovernmental relations
- Issues haven’t addressed: Communication between Council
and Executive.
- Duplication of services across governments in King County.
- Level of service delivery.
- How to get consensus about the County’s regional role
and how to identify who funds
which services.
- Must understand the Suburban Cities’ philosophy and the
reason they think this is
important.
- The Commission does not have enough sway or expertise to compel
anyone to follow such a recommendation. Is there some kind of
forcing mechanism to do this? We need to look at recommendations
that require State legislative change. Could the State give the
power to some entity? Who to bring all the regional entities (cities,
County, special districts) together about the issue of who does
what. What is the right process or venue for that? Commission
should be specific about how the County can bring together coordination
of services.
- Be sure to document the successes that have occurred.
- What are the incentives that bring people to the table for this
dialogue – the GMPC, the
Charter Commission.
- Representation for rural King County.
- Small group needs to meet to continue drafting recommendations.
See below for additional issues this group has to address: regional
human services, encouragement to develop agreements for local
service delivery.
Criminal Justice
Issues haven’t addressed: Sheriff and Prosecutor’s
budget and costs. They are scheduled for Dec. 4. Whatever the Commission
decides about this recommendation should be tentative until their
presentation, or small group of Commission members could meet with
them and report back.
Cost sharing and the state committee: Marty will research the
status of reimbursement of cases –what is status?
This is an opportunity. We need to say something positive or definitive
about incarceration versus treatment and what these policy choices
are costing the region.
Heard great ideas; recommendation that is in draft needs additional
input and won’t alone address the problem. Need to be clear
that savings does not equal the need for investment. There is no
fiscal payoff early from reinvesting “deep-end” savings
in prevention and treatment.
Must recognize when these issues become human service issues rather
than criminal
justice issues. They are interrelated. United Way is interested
in ending homelessness –
look at linkages between human services and criminal justice.
Find out more about Proposition 36; talk to Dan Merkle about it;
how were savings accomplished.
Explore consolidation of city and county police forces which was
suggested in several other counties. The Sheriff contracting with
cities could be seen as regionalization of services. Marty will
research historic growth in Sheriff and Prosecutor’s budgets.
Find out about court consolidation. What are persuasive arguments
for and against it? Discuss with King County Bar Association, National
Lawyer’s Guild.
Encourage Adult Justice Operational Master Plan (AJOMP) efforts.
Employment Policies
- A draft recommendation is underway by the subgroup on this issue.
- Issues haven’t addressed:
- How did recent downsizing/reorganization of the County affect
management?
- Binding interest arbitration – what are the costs and does
it cause cost “creep?” Need to show that it does or does not
cause salaries to be greater than IPD or CPI. Before we make
final recommendation, may relate to Phase 3. Marty will research
10 years of salaries and benefits of those with BIA to the
IPD/CPI.
- Competitive bidding: San Diego County had the vehicle maintenance
functions compete for bids; this is sometimes used as leverage
at the bargaining table. The Commission could consider it not
as tool to achieve savings, but to achieve different deployment
or more efficient operations. The issues of competitive contracting
are policy issues that the County has said should not be considered
because of legal restrictions. Goldsmith: It is not always the
right answer, but that does not mean it is never the right answer.
In some cases it saves substantial amounts of money. In some cases
services were improved as a result of competitive process; just
going out for bid challenged staff to find better ways to do it.
This is a governance issue – it should be considered as a tool.
The County needs this kind of leverage long-term. This is an issue
that needs the County’s attention – may be the Commission members
are generalists. Some work must be contracted out; call it something
else; we raise the issue not to decrease labor costs but to budge
the County to collaborate with other jurisdictions. If this is
not going to fix our structural problem, it is not really worth
taking on.
- We have not explored everything or heard from everyone, but
we have concluded that employment policy is not the answer to
the structural problem; we need to explore the link of labor issues
to criminal justice issues.
- We have learned that the County has a collaborative approach,
not adversarial; the goal is to keep morale up and reduce distractions
in the workplace. The labor relations folks we talked to said
some financial intangibles were offered but it did not result
in employees being paid outrageous amounts.
- We have learned that the County has a collaborative approach,
not adversarial; the goal is to keep morale up and reduce distractions
in the workplace. The labor relations folks we talked to said
some financial intangibles were offered but it did not result
in employees being paid outrageous amounts.
- Note where contracting is used now at the County: Public Works,
Human Services.
- The part of the recommendation regarding intergovernmental services
with local governments should be part of the intergovernmental
subgroup’s recommendation. There was an example of this (talk
with Steve Williamson) about consolidation of parks departments.
Workers changed unions and employers.
- Marty will redraft the employment policy recommendation based
on edits to date and work with the subgroup to finalize it.
Human Services
- Issues and Potential Recommendations: decrease pressure on criminal
justice system by investing discretionary funding on human services;
encourage current dialogue among Regional Policy Committee and
recently created Commission on Human Services – focusing on regional
provision of human services.
- Is there some driver to ensure these conversations take place?
This was envisioned to be part of the Regional Finance & Governance
dialogue and agreement that was never reached. What compels people
to have this dialogue?
- Health/mental health service delivery issues: County should
take on issue the issue of mental health/other models. Could County
take on organizing and providing these services or supplementing
the provision of it at the local level? Pierce County made it
possible by purchasing an inpatient psychiatric facility that
had filed for bankruptcy. This is an important role for the County.
In 1996, why did the SCA oppose moves to have a regional funding
system for human services? Many are not funded by the County and
there are minimal County services in smaller cities. Could the
Commission suggest a funding system based on a per-capita contribution
from all cities and the County? Remember that the County’s funding
for human services is focused on Seattle and a little of Bellevue,
very low in the rural areas.
- Strengthen the language in bullet #2 in the recommendation;
stress that these are regional services and strong regionalization
is the way to go. The County must play a very proactive role.
Commission should review p. 11 of this packet regarding the Human
Services Commission, and recommend alternative language. The regionalization
of human services should be moved to the intergovernmental relations
subgroup. Marty will contact Sharon Maeda regarding these recommendations.
- Strengthen the language in bullet #2 in the recommendation;
stress that these are regional services and strong regionalization
is the way to go. The County must play a very proactive role.
Commission should review p. 11 of this packet regarding the Human
Services Commission, and recommend alternative language. The regionalization
of human services should be moved to the intergovernmental relations
subgroup. Marty will contact Sharon Maeda regarding these recommendations.
- Consider what are the costs or hidden costs associated with
not providing human services (private, societal and individual).
Management Approach to Fiscal Challenges
- Issues include overhead, technology, management of internal
services.
- Technology – the Commission needs to address how the County
can have an effective technology program? What besides the BATF
recommendations should the Commission recommend?
- To tackle the whole topic of management approach, pull out the
BATF recommendations
and send them out for review. Much had to do with consolidation
of operations.
- To tackle the whole topic of management approach, pull out the BATF recommendations
and send them out for review. Much had to do with consolidation of operations. The
Commission can’t tell the County how to do it.
- The BATF ducked the issue of why the County has this problem. Is it the merger?
- The charge for the Commission is to look at the BATF stuff and say to Marty
quickly what do we need to ask about other than what they have investigated.
- The Council heard a presentation on August 27 about who has and uses “program
management plans” now. To make any capital investments, departments must have
and Council must approve an operational master plan (OMP), capital improvement plan
(CIP), a Project Program Plan (PPP), and a site master plan. We heard of a few good
ones in Wastewater and Transit and they are critical to good operations. We should
talk about this in our next meeting: efficiency, overhead and span of control;
who has authority over who does it? We might advise King County to have
someone professionally review this. Marty will find out the current status of a
recent overhead study.
- Who mandates whether to have these program plans?
Whatever is recommended, we need to get access to middle-level managers and line
workers responsible for implementation.
The Commission should offer Marty language for recommendations prior to the
20th, to make it easier to have a conversation at the table. Let Marty know
immediately what your preferred language is for criminal justice and human
services recommendations.
6. Starting Phase 3 Recommendations
Marty will put together a profile of the County’s current sources of revenue,
what they are, background on utility tax, and what types of revenue sources do
counties have.
- Marty will put together a profile of the County’s current sources of revenue,
what they are, background on utility tax, and what types of revenue sources do
counties have.
- Instead of looking at these issues as cost problems, the Commission should be looking
at the sufficiency of revenue – is that the problem?
- Cross subsidization and regional financing mechanisms (on the workplan) will be
handled by the intergovernmental relations subgroup. Change the language about
“analyzing” the cross subsidization of urban unincorporated areas - the Commission does
is not interested in doing that.
- Need to identify final issues to wrap up Phase 3 issues by December 4.
- Examine in other states: mandatory models where the State compels cities and
counties to annex and speed the transition of unincorporated areas. Also try to
get an idea of whether expense reductions would make any difference; use other jurisdictions’ budgets to identify how the County compares on a percapita
expenditure basis to other areas.
- Marty will re-send the matrix the sub-group developed for the BATF.
Q: Given labor’s preference for layoffs of a freeze on wage increases, if revenue
stays constant are there service areas we should shut down?
A: Look at median income and tax burden per capita for this county and
compare it to other counties. We have a low tax burden per capita. We
operate in a representative government, and while the average citizen
doesn’t understand, someone needs to do the right thing by creating a tax
base that will respond to the ups and downs of the economy. We need a new
tax structure in this County. Prior to I-695 we did not have a budget crisis.
Q: Property taxes here are higher than many parts of the country, as is sales
tax. Maybe we’re encouraging too many services.
A: There’s no state income tax.
Q: You said there was no crisis before Initiative 695, but the crisis did exist
according to the taxpayers. The private sector would have to downsize – a
corrective device when the revenue base squeezes. It’s not fair to ask you
where we should downsize because you have obligations to the employees
you represent. But how would you suggest we go about looking at what
units to downsize?
A: Flexibility exists with labor leaders to deal with doomsday scenarios. We’ve
already downsized: look at parks. The public sector has downsized similar
to the public sector, but is faced with mandated services it must provide.
7. Phase 4 – Governance issues. Ideas about who to hear from:
- Pros and cons of partisan and non-partisan offices. When counties and cities have made
the transition, what has the outcome been?
- International City/County Management Association: Berk & Associates is trying to have
a representative from ICMA talk with us about forms of government in January.
- The Commission should hear from Secretary of State about the elected auditor idea,
Evans School.
8. Next Steps
- The November 20 meeting will include finalizing Phase 2 recommendations; a
presentation on Phase 3 funding issues. The Commission should expect a lot of e-mail
drafting between now and then. Plan to stay late if needed on November 20, with the
exception of the criminal justice recommendations.
- December 4 will include finalizing Phase 3 finance issues and initiating discussions about
Phase 4; hear from Sheriff and Prosecutor.
- January 8 – 5-hour meeting to wrap up and confirm Phase 1-3 recommendations and
bring forward Phase 4 (governance) recommendations, hear from speakers on January
22 and plan public meeting for mid-January.
- We’re not at a point to have a December public meeting, but need to have a public
meeting early enough for the public to weigh in on Phase 4 issues.
The
meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
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